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post #1 of 6 Old 08-26-2016, 09:41 AM Thread Starter
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What is the expected life (miles or months) of the chain that comes with our bikes?
Also, what length (I guess in links) fits our NM4?
Lastly, is one type (sealed, x-type, etc.) really better than another, or is it just a matter of preference?
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Just took my NM4 in for it's 16,000 mile service. Noticed chain was starting to slap as I accelerated. Needed a new chain. Not sure about where you live but here in Florida we get a lot of sand in the air which probably does not help mush on the life. I just ordered the Honda replacement. As I have a service plan with my shop they fitted it for free. But belt and new sprockets (They advice replacing both when you change the chain) was around $300. Chain alone was around $200
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Just took my NM4 in for it's 16,000 mile service. Noticed chain was starting to slap as I accelerated. Needed a new chain. Not sure about where you live but here in Florida we get a lot of sand in the air which probably does not help mush on the life. I just ordered the Honda replacement. As I have a service plan with my shop they fitted it for free. But belt and new sprockets (They advice replacing both when you change the chain) was around $300. Chain alone was around $200

16,000 miles ALREADY! I need to touch base with you before you hit the 50,000 mark!
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I like to do my own service when I can, but I may have screwed the pooch when trying to tighten my chain.
My chain length mark on the left side sticker on the swingarm showed plenty of room to go before reaching the green or even close to the red "too long" mark.
So I thought I was fine to left the rear, loosen the right side axle nut, and begin alternately moving the adjuster 10mm bolts backwards to tighten.
I turned and turned and eventually the 10mm got to a point where it would not move easily or at all. I thought it was binding up somehow because I still had plenty of distance to go on the markers.
However, as I tried turning the 10mm harder I ended up stripping the bolt head.
On further inspection I found that the adjuster bolt had reached some kind of captured length limit. As in you can't move the 10mm so far that it would actually come out of the swingarm.

Which is weird because what if they need to be replaced like mine do now?

How would a person get them out if they are "captured" in the swingarm?

Are their longer 10mm bolts that would allow more chain tightening to get further into the green zone of the adjustment sticker?

Could my adjustment sticker have been misapplied to my swingarm and I am really at the max adjustment and now need new bolts and a new chain?
I have about 13,000 miles on my chain and honestly I rode it in a lot of rain and didn't lube it at all until about maybe the 10,000 mile mark. Now it is so loose that it slaps up and down and left and right causing it to take tiny bites out of the rear tire when it slaps left and right.

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Over on the CTX 700 site "https://www.ctx700forum.com/" (which uses same engine/tranny) you'll find reports all over the place. Poor riding conditions, hard riding, poor maintenance... everything affects chain life. You'll see AVERAGES 14-18k. If you are a heavy user or using it for commuting, you may want to put on an automatic chain oiler. It can extend chain life to 20k-30k, but also comes with more initial fiddling, fitting, and getting use to how to dial it in. Since very few NM4's out there, you should do some searches over there to see potential issues or answers to questions you may have on the motor/tranny/chain.
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Should also be noted that on the NM4, the chain is NOT straight front to rear. The drive sprocket on the transmission is slightly inboard from the wheel sprocket. Aligning the rear wheel takes some extra effort. No idea how that offset will effect chain life. Mine has nearly 20k on it and still runs great, but I apply Amsoil chain lube weekly.
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